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to jim lehrer? he might as well not even showed up last night. he lost control of the debate and mitt romney ran all over him like a truck crushing a bug. we don't need a moderator for the next debate. we didn't have one last night. we'll talk about it, who won who lost, is it going to change anything. first, let's take a little time out to get the latest, today's current news update as always from lisa ferguson out in los angeles. hi lisa, good morning. >> hey bill, welcome back. it is a good day to be back. good morning everyone. with the first debate under their belts the candidates are back on the campaign trail today. president obama starts out where he left off in denver then he heads to madison wisconsin. joe biden is in iowa and mitt romney is in virginia. but who wants to talk about all of that when what you really want to talk about is the debates. a lot of claims thrown around last night. we're going to do some fact checking for you this morning. but first let's start out with a bit of a recap.

interrupting the moderator. >> jim, the president began this segment, so i think i get the last word. >> he gets the first word, i get the last word. let me make this happen. i'm sorry, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like big bird. i'm not going to keep spending on things from china to pay for it. if that's the case, it will be the best product to purchase. my experience is the private sector is typically able to provide a product at a lower cost. >> can the two of you agree, the voters have a clear choice on medicare? >> absolutely. let's mention the other one. >> let's not. >> the last point i would make before -- >> ten minutes is up, sir. >> i had five seconds before he interrupted me -- >> joining us to sort through the debate, the executive editor of politico, jim van dehide. thanks for waking up early. cnn viewers, 67% of them said mitt romney had a better night. what is your view after watching it? >> there's no doubt mitt romney had the night of his political night. he had to have the night he had last night. i can't think of a debate in the 20 years covering this where th

to the moderator issue. jim lehrer was criticized. watch this. >> right right. >> let's just stay on taxes. >> well, but virtually everything he just said about my tax plan is inaccurate. >> all right. >> we're way over our first 15 minutes. >> fun. >> it's great: no problem. if you don't have a problem. i don't have a problem. >> jim, the president began the segment so i think i get the last word. >> but i think you get the first word in the next segment. >> but he got the first word and-- >> cenk: that was not president. jim lehrer put out a statement. i thought the for nat accomplished its purpose which was facility direct extended exchanging between the candidates about issues of substance. him getting out of the way and letting them debate, i got no problems with that but isn't the role of the journalist to challenge these guys whether it's president obama or mitt romney so we have a clearer sense of what they are policy plans and proposals? >> that was the sense that lehrer lost control of it. there were no comebacks from him, well, what do you mean by $716 billion? is that really true that

. but others have made moderator jim lehrer the target of their criticism arguing he let the argue get out of control. tonight derek says he defies any of those folks to do it any better. >> yeah, anita, i know this because i've done it before it. several times. i tell you, in politics the debate moderator is a lot like the king of england. fancy title. not much real power. once i moderated a debate during which an uninvited candidate came on stage to take part. i looked in vain to the organizers to do something. when they shrugged, what was i going to do? i waved him on in. homeboy was a nut. i think he had a few beverages. back in the '90s, i hosted a radio discussion which included, by the way, yes, that was me, it included then mayor marion barry, and when he repeatedly ignored my instructions and my warnings and kept right on talking, i finally had the engineer to cuts microphone. that's what i had to do to corral one big city mayor in an environment i completely controlled. so imagine jim lehrer that in debate hall. he can't cut anybody's microphone and he's dealing with the presiden

at him. >> steve: he would look at jim lehrer like he is taking too much time. >> brian: i thought it was telling and you saw a guy that did one thing and i thought the b.b.c. katy k who never said anything nice about a republican. president obama has spent millions was dollars trying to show that governor romney was not worthy of being president. governor romney showed he was worthy and he is competent and all of that money was wasted to any of the 60 million who watched. >> steve: that's the beauty of seeing them side by side unfiltered and uninterrupt no commercials. in 30 second sound bites you can try to defend or define your opponent and that's what the president has done. last night, gretchen, when the president of the united states am mitt romney want to cut taxes for rich guys. mr. romney said mr. president, that is not the case. >> i know you and your running mate keep saying that and it is popular to say. but it is not the case. i have five boys and i am used to people saying something that is not always true and keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping i will believe

questioner tonight is jim lehrer. it's the 12th time he's served as moderator. >> lehrer: good evening. from the magnus arena at the university of denver in denver, colorado. i'm jim lehrer of the pbs newshour and i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates between president barack obama the democratic nominee and former massachusetts governor romney, the republican nominee. this debate and the next three-- two presidential, one vice presidential-- are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15-minute segments with two-minute answers for the first question. then open discussion for the remainder of each segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects or questions via the internet and other means but i made the final selections and, for the record, they were not submitted for approval to the commission or the candidates. the segments, as i announced in advance, will be three on the economy and one each on health car

mr. romney had said. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> it prompted a plurry of internet activity supporting big bird and the public broadcasting system. what's the truth? could big bird going bye bye? joining us now a reporter from the christian science monitor. good morning. >> good morning. >> are big bird and pbs really in any danger here? >> i don't think big bird's had things this good in awhile. he's huge on twitter now. his twitter presence increased like 800,000%. and the thing about big bird and "sesame street," they have so much outside funding that it's not like "sesame street" is going to disappear. pbs, though, that subsidy, it's a sizeable chunk of their budget. it would be a big blow. >> about how much? do you have a perspective on how much that is? how much the government chips in? >> it fluctuates year to year. it's about 10 to 15%. in 2011 about 12% of pbs's budget

-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> huh? okay. do the brakes work? >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. >> let's not. let's let him respond. >> i get the last word. let me make this comment. >> nope. come on, mr. president, give us a peek under the hood. >> five week before the election he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they're too good? is it because that somehow middle class a families are going to benefit too much? ♪ i guess you're just what i needed ♪ >>> we begin with the president criticized as being less than effective last night by hyperventilating pundits across the board, but now getting his own chance to put a spin on the first presidential debate. fresh off last night's face-off, the president is hitting the trail in key swing states. he's just touched down in madison, wisconsin, for a rally within the hour. >>> and earlier this afternoon the president described his own complete and utte

just as hard in the second term. >> governor romney? >> thank you jim, mr. president and thank you for tuning in this evening. this is an important election and i'm concerned about america. i'm concerned about the direction america has been taking over the last four years. i know this is bigger than an election about the two of us as individuals. it's bigger than our respective parties. it's an election about the course of america. what kind of america do you want to have for yourself and for your children. and there really are two very different paths that we began speaking about this evening and over the course of this month we'll have two more presidential debates and a vice presidential debate. but they lead in different directions and it's not just looking to our words that you have to take into evidence to where they go. you can look at the record. there's no question in my mind if the president were to be re-elected you'll continue to see a middle class squeeze with incomes going down and prices going up. i'll get incomes up again. you'll see chronic unemployment. we've had

after a strong showing in last night's presidential debate. cnn national political correspondent jim acosta has the latest. jim. >> reporter: wolf, flying to virginia mitt romney will spend much of the day after the first presidential debate up in the air. but for the first time in weeks the state of his campaign is not. mitt romney took his victory lap after the first presidential debate receiving a sustained standing ovation during a surprise visit to a conference of conservatives in denver. >> i saw the president's vision as trickled down government. and i don't think that's what america believes in. i see instead a prosperity that comes through freedom. >> reporter: it didn't take long after the debate was finished for the romney campaign to turn the spin room into the win room. are you declaring victory, jim, if this was a boxing match, the referee would have called it. after taking some knocks from some in the gop after spending too much time in debate prep and not enough in rally in swing states, the romney campaign felt vindicated. although eric fehrnstrom pushed back on the

no idea. i have absolutely no idea why. i'm surprised jim lehrer didn't ask about it. i was surprised romney didn't affirmatively try to defuse it himself. i was surprised that obama didn't bring it up. biggest surprise for me of the night is that it didn't come up. it's been the dominant thing in our debate for the last few weeks. >> david axelrod is coming up. jon meacham, you look over the past 25 years, 30 years or so, and you look at the republican presidential candidates who all have strengths, they've all been remarkable men in their own way, but not good debaters. you know, republicans have held our breath through the john mccain debates and the george w. bush debates and the bob dole debates and the george h.w. debates. again, a great man, a horrific debater. you know, the famous jon lovitz line, "i can't believe i'm losing to this guy." playing michael dukakis. you really do have to go back to ronald reagan to find a republican that was in command during a presidential debate. and i predict that's going to excite the republican base in a way it hasn't been excited in a very

. if jim lehr is watching, maybe he should ask him that. >> i used to think, i still think, massachusetts is a poor training ground for presidential candidates because it's a weird culture up there. maybe the republicans run was not a good preparation for general election this year. anyway, in swing states the obama campaign has bombarded voters, as you said, with this powerful ad going after romney for his 47% putdown. let's take a look. >> 47% of the americans who vote for the president who are dependent, who believe they're victims, who believe the government has to care for them, who believes they're entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it, and they will vote for this president no matter what. so my job is not to worry about those -- i'll never take care of them. they should take care responsibility and take care of themselves. >> you look at this analytical, only three or four breaks, romney would be ahead right now, breaks going to obama's side. the romney performance overseas when he blew that thing with cameron. the masterful performance by bill clinton where he reset

. tonight's moderator is jim leher, he will be running the show for the 12th time. what's it like trying to keep presidents and candidates in line. we'll hear from somebody who has done the job as we countdown to the first presidential tee bait of 2012 on this special edition of "the fox report" live tonight from denver. issan altima and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. ♪ introducing the completely reimagined nissan altima. it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ has become boring and tasteless... only one man can save the day. ♪ ♪ he's nutty! ♪ he's crunchy! [ male announcer ] it's crunchy nut! honey sweet flakes with nuts in every bite! ♪ he saves the day! ♪ in his tasty way! ♪ ♪ he is the crunchy nut! [ male announcer ] kellogg's crunchy nu it's super delicious! >> shepard: i'm shepard smith. this is the fox report. it's the bottom of the hour, time for the top of the news. live tonight from denver

at the beginning of the subjects that jim leherer will introduce. and discussing not policing 30-second rebuttals and 60-second statements. none of that red light stuff with the clocks and all of that stuff. and when you're in mitt romney's position, where he's actually trying to hide some things, trying to hide the details of the deduction side of his tax plan, he's still hiding his tax returns. when you're that candidate who has things that you don't want to talk about, those very narrow rules are your friend. the red light is your friend. the very limited 30-second response, 60-second response works well for candidate who trying to dodge and trying to get away from things. president obama, i think is going to have an advantage in the way the non-rules are in this debate tonight. and i also think that mitt romney has come off a series of really easy debates. we have to remember, mitt romney triumphed in a republican presidential field that was the worst republican presidential field in the history of the republican party. those are the debates he won. he was the one on the stage who did not loo

anything i want. jim lehrer is not getting in my way. why didn't he say here is why i stuck out my neck for the american auto industry. >> absolutely. >> it's not just about jobs. i feel american people like to build cars. we love cars. it's in our nature to build them and build the best. it's important that guys and women have jobs making cars. it's important to who we are as americans. maybe general motors was good -- damn it, it's good to have general motors, something passionate that would have gone right to ohio, to pennsylvania, wisconsin. they would have said, damn it, this guy gets how much thrill i get getting on that line every day and turning out these great cars that i want to buy. why didn't -- how about women? a girl ought to know from the time she's 16 her hours are as valuable as the male's hour of work. these are passionate things he believes in. he stood there like he was an observer of romney's performance. i could go on -- i got to let you talk. i could go on. go ahead. >> you could go on. we might want you to stand in for barack obama. >> i could do this show alone

the election? let's go to jim acosta at the rally in fishersville, virginia. trace adkins, i guess, is going to perform there. they're getting ready for a big, big blowout. >> reporter: that's right, erin. they are blowing this day up. you could say this is a #winningday for the romney campaign. trace adkins is on stage. and we saw the evidence of this all day long from the gop nominee, when he got on board his campaign plane earlier this morning. he was already cruising at a higher altitude, erin, chatting up his campaign staff. there was a smile on his face. and, honestly, erin, i've been covering this campaign for a year and a half. this was one of the happit days that i've seen on the part of this campaign and its staff for some time. but you could tell that things were starting to change during the day, as the president was starting to mount that new offensive, going after mitt romney on his statements last night, calling into question whether or not the gop contender was telling the truth during last night's debate and putting out that new ad that said if we can't trust him on the deba

hours away. let's go straight to denver and to jim acosta. and, jim, does team romney, do they see the polls we ran through, is this a sign the race is tightening, is the wind in romney's sails, is it there going into tonight? >> they do, actually. i just got off the phone with a couple of romney campaign sources, brooke. i can tell you that the romney campaign does see this race tightening right now and that their game plan for tonight, as it was laid out to me, is to make sure that trajectory as one romney campaign source put it continues. they want to see the race continue to tighten. it is interesting to give you a couple of nuggets i got off the phone call a few moments ago, they are not going to be looking for a knockout punch tonight. what they're hoping to do for the american people is show a contrast, a clear contrast as they call it between the president's handling of the economy and what mitt romney would do were he elected president to fix the economy. so that is basically the game plan from the romney campaign, do no harm and live to fight another day. >> it is interes

lothian, reporting live from denver this morning. >>> perhaps the bigger loser last night was jim lehrer. the reviews are in and they're not good. some say he blew it, the worst moderator ever. bill keller called lehrer road kill. he could not even level an attack directed at his own network. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, big bird. i actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> cnn political analyst and editorial director of the national journal. hi, ron. >> good morning, carol. >> i know it's not the most important issue of the night. plenty of people actually think lehrer helped mitt romney by allowing him so much time to answer questions. fair? >> i don't know. he has been an important force in presidential debates. last night was not a good night for him. the new format has a lot of strength, allows you to drill down on a subject, providing sustained focus on one area at a time. and he simply did not take advantage of it. he didn't have meaningful follow-ups. he didn't challenge them. he

was a republican, i would vote for john cornyn. but all your money comes from jim demint and the super pac. that is his biggest competition. we all know that. you will not answer the question. >> jim demint has made it clear he is not running for leadership. what i said, i said i think it would be presumptuous for me to commit to a leadership vote until the election. you showed no hesitancy -- >> we are going to go on. in the next session, they will sort out their leaders in the next session. we are tentatively going to move on to immigration. >> mr. sadler, stopping illegal immigration, there have been proposals like tripling the size of border patrol or building expensive fences or walls. however, there are 11.5 million illegal residents in our country today. 1.6 million in texas alone. illegal immigrants. do you support a path to citizenship for people here illegally enter yes i do. -- illegally? >> yes, i do. our border, a lot of texans may not know, el paso is the safest city its size in america. our border is a great economic engine, a great cultural factor, it is a diverse cultural

jim acosta has more on that. >> reporter: wolf, after millions of americans watched mitt romney go toe to toe with president obama at their first debate, the gop nominee now wants voters to see him as commander in chief. he's done just that in a series of foreign policy speeches, including one here at the virginia military institute where he kudz the president of allowing the middle east to drift closer towards war. telling a crowd of cadets and supporters at the virginia military institute that hope is not a strategy on foreign policy, mitt romney wasted no time in building his case that the middle east has grown more dangerous under president obama's watch. exhibit a was last month's attack that left a u.s. ambassador dead at the american consulate in libya. >> the attacks on america last not should not be seen as random acts. they're expressions of a larger struggle playing out across the broader middle east and i'll vigorously pursue the terrorists who attacked our consulate in benghazi and killed our fellow americans. >> reporter: romney then seized on the recently violence in syr

weeks on that, chris. i think every debate moderator starting with jim lehrer tomorrow night is going to demand specifics in the way chris wallace tried to do last week on fox. and i also think that the numbers are emblematic of values in this case. people want to know about mitt romney. they're undecided. i disagree with chuck a little bit. i think people are prepared to blame the president enough to dismiss him if, as chuck says, they are secure about romney. it's that last piece that romney hasn't done, and forcing him to discuss the details of his tax plan is not a way necessarily to win those undecided voters at this point because i doubt that many of them like the idea of a big tax cut for millionaires. >> what do you think, chuck, of george wills' column where he says america will advance when it learns how to fire a black president, an african-american president. we haven't advanced that far. what do you make of this comment in his column today? like the orioles fired frank robinson. >> i have talked to a lot of republicans who believe that they do believe that there is a high

$22 and texas. that is otherwise known as a poll tax, during the jim crow era. in texas, only 81 of 254 counties in texas have a dmv. if you cannot have idea and you live and accounting without i.d., how are you supposed to get to an office in texas to be able to get an i.d.? there are a lot of problems in practicalities obtain this i.d. you have states that are rushing to implement these laws and are implementing them in 2012. you have a lot of commissions, the carter-baker commission after the 2000 election that says that need to wake two election cycles to implement this idea to make sure everything happens. the last thing i would say is of a vote is not like getting on an airplane or buying sudafed. it is a right that many people have died for in this country, that people have blood for in this country. anytime we restrict their right to vote, particularly on the basis of race or class, we should be very, very, very careful about doing it and only do it if there is a pressing need to do so. my feeling is there is no reason to have this kind of government- issued i.d. people d

. last chance for the yankees in the ninth. the game is 3-2. a-rod at the plate. he's the tying run. jim johnson gets a-rod swinging to end the game. the orioles win 3-2. that series now tied at one. that is the first play-off win for the orioles in 15 years. the series now moves to the bronx for the final three game. cardinals trying to avoid going down two games to none at home with the nats. 7-3 when carlos beltran hammers one off the facade, third deck. he's not done. eighth inning, beltran with a moon shot. this one off the scaffolding in left center. cardinals win 12-4. beltran is second all time for multihome runs. reds at home going for the sweep of the giants. that's at 5:37 eastern. tigers can also sweep the as when they go to oakland tonight. tomorrow, a pair of series tie, nats host the cards and orioles in the bronx. >>> the new york jets coming off a 34-0 shutout loss at home to the 49ers had the bad misfortune of meeting the undefeated houston texans last night. first quarter, jets offense showing signs of life. mark sanchez throws one right over the defender to jeff cumb

think? >> well, it's hard to imagine that somebody, either jim lehrer or the president himself, won't bring up the 47% video because it has been devastating to romney. obama has used it in ads and it plays into the perception of romney as a very rich guy who is completely out of touch with ordinary voters. however, i can't imagine that romney hasn't are practiced responses to that. he's already had an ad where he sits down, faces the camera, he tries to assure voters that he wants to help 100% of americans, everybody. but the danger for romney is seeming fake or false when he tries to connect. he has, no doubt, practiced a lot, rehearsed a lot. he has a lot of answers already planned but can he seem genuine when he's given that answer -- those answers as something to watch out for? >> now, erin, the 47%, according to all polling, has really crushed romney. the latest poll shows 45% of americans said it gave them a more negative view of romney. now the polls show 55% had a negative reaction. so he has to deal with it if it comes up and it's likely to come up. you heard cynthia say th

this comment. i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep spending money on things -- >> let's -- >> let's get back to medicare. the president said the government could provide it at a lower cost without a profit. let's -- >> let's not. let's let him respond. let's let him respond to this specific on dodd/frank and what the governor just said. >> massachusetts governor mitt romney rolling over the debate moderator, jim lehrer, of pbs last night during the first presidential debate of this campaign season. joining us now for the interview is dan rather, host of "dan rather reports" on access tv. anchor of cbs' "evening news" for 20 years and a veteran observer of the campaigns. thank you. >> always a pleasure to be here. >> what is your reaction overall to the debate last night? i am amssuing you think mitt romney won the debate. what do you think is important about it? >> i think what's important about it is it gives governor romney a chance to get a second look from the electorate. when he was in a bad p

on domestic issues. c-span will bring you live coverage tonight. the debate gets underway at 9:00. jim lehrer is the moderator and is doing his final preparations. we would like to hear from you this morning. what questions do you have for the candidates? here are the numbers to call -- host: you can also find us online. send us a twitter message, twitter.com/c-spanwj. we have a special hash tag for this, c-span 2012. or you can e-mail us at journal@c-span.org. the opinion section of "usa today," tackling this morning's question. the number one question for president obama? it revolves around the economy. they would like to ask president obama -- "if you did not turn around the economy within three years, you said in 2009, your presidency would be one term." see: let's jump over and the top question for mitt romney. host: would you like to ask the candidates as we go over the debate. the top story this morning on the front page that we are looking at right now, "middle- class detour." the story looks at local voters, saying that the next american president will be governing a shrinking middle

is a professor of law at osu and jim heath, a host of the sunday morning show -- guest: capitol square. host: let's go to steve on the phone. caller: i had seen some ads running in our area and i've been put off with the negativity. there was one in particular, my being an independent and very libertarian, i did not like the way the health care thing went on. so i am leaning more toward romney. it was one ad that the president was running about the automobile industry and how they saved over 100,000 jobs in ohio, automobile-related. it does not really mention that honda is the largest manufacturer in the state and did not get bailout money. ford and honda both hired more people than gm combined. host: thanks for the caller. we will get a response. guest: i don't have any particular response to that, but you see a lot of claims made in ads, some more true than the others. in terms of the economy in ohio, the unemployment rate across the state is about 7%. national average is now 7.8%. in other parts of the country like detroit, it's above 10%, get the -- yet that seems to be a case strongly democ

in their first debate. jim lehrer moderates from the university of denver. what and engage with our live debate preview at 7:00 p.m. eastern, followed by two ways to watch the debate at 9:00. on c-span, both candidates on- screen the entire debate. on c-span 2 bank, the multi camera version. following, your reactions, calls, e-mail, and tweets. following our coverage at c- span, c-span radio, and online at c-span.org. >> back to dallas. the texas senate debate, courtesy of wfaa. the senate seat is being vacated by kay bailey hutchison. [no audio] the texas senate debate getting underway shortly. ted cruz is a former solicitor general. paul sadler is a former member of the texas house. this is sent to us courtesy of wfaa tv. >> welcome back to, everyone, to ted cruz versus sadler. a lot of twittering going on, as the covered wide range of topics. let's get to some of them right here on the board. from david holmes -- i like this format. why won't you agree to more debates, cruz? up next, coming from joshua, sadler is already looking desperate, he may want to rethink his insistence on six debates

. >> brian: it is jim laer had to come wup it. six parts and two minutes to answer and free throwing. and get off of the script and let them interact with each other. >> any thoughts of what romney needs to do tonight. he needs to change the conjectory and seeing the tightening polls in the last few days. but clearly it is on him in many ways. >> steve: this is his chance to shine. in the meantime we have news. >> in your headlines. we have air force 2 aborting landing twice in one day. first time vice-president vice-president biden was aproaching charlotte. there were thunderstorms in the area and on the way home from campaigning in north carolina it happened again. heavy fog over marylandy forced the plan to to circle 45 minutes. now to the folks news exclusive. letters show that thitate department refused to get involved when the company paid to protect the security in lib yampt warning signs may have been ignored. the contractor felt security was substandard, and that the situation was unworkable. when the libyans tried to bring in a third party to help with security it was shut down. and

in our jobs panel. jim kessler, senior vice president for policy and cofounder of third way. former policy director of democratic senator chuck schumer of new york. john engler former governor of michigan. nice to have you both on the program. this comes up every sing gill time we get a jobs report and whether or not the books are cooked and whether or not we get a accurate reading. this conversation coming up more because we're right by a presidential election. what is your response, when you hear concerns from people maybe this is isn't a accurate reading on the job market? >> so two points, one is, these numbers are always wrong. i mean, they're done on surveys and there's revisions done over and over and over again. if you look in 2009, almost all of the revisions, when they would look back made the jobs numbers worse. looking back in 2011 and 2012 the revisions have generally made previous months better. but, look, the people who put this together, they're statisticians, statisticians. this is what they love to do. they don't cook the books. they're the most, you know, they're

seconds, buzzer, things like that. it's up to the discretion of the moderator, jim leierer. that's going to be up to him. but there's supposed to be a lot of leeway here over how long the conversations go. the debate is on domestic policy. 90 minutes is supposed to be devoted to the economy specifically with governing and health care. but we'll see if the general nature of those areas allows libya to come up, which we know the romney folks want to do. debates are as much about style as substance and this is a reality show where obama and romney will meet in the first time in nearly five years before their biggest audience of the campaign. the first 2008 presidential debate between the president and john mccain got seven times the audience of the highest rated 2012 republican primary debate. think about that. seven times. past debates show romney and obama have to worry about cut away shots that are less than flattering. in the past both candidates have come across as irritable, patronizing or disengaged. this was chris christie's advice to the candidates yesterday. >> what you do is go o

it done. i think that's very fair, i think it's a question that will be asked of him tomorrow by jim lehrer. >> it's also been deemed as mathematically impossible. thank you. as the candidates gear up, we are headed to denver. we will broadcast live from the university of denver, so be sure to tune in tomorrow, 4:00 p.m. eastern. >>> next, the 47 and bain. sure to take center stage tomorrow. stay with us. >> you haven't given me the math. >> but, well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too lock to go through all the math. >> great answer. why? it's a great answer. why is it a great answer? well, it would take me too long to explain, but trust me, it was a great answer. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.6

for this thing to add up. i think when he's pressed, and he will be by someone like jim lehr, he'll be pressed by specifics. that's when the rubber will meet the road for mitt romney. if he doesn't have the numbers to back him up, he'll have a very big challenge. >> he'll be pressed by lehr but another guy there named barack obama pressing too many. we'll be watching. tad devine and wes moore, thank you for your time. >>> coming up, paul ryan has his own secret tape, claiming that 30% of americans want their welfare stake. that explosive video is coming up. it only adds to mitt romney's 47% problem in tomorrow night's debate. >>> plus, republicans used to have no problem with far right agenda people like todd akin. now they're trying to hide who they really are. stay with us. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ]

was medicare . jim lehrer was but -- but. he got confused. >> steve: poor guy. >> brian: 78. ♪ ♪ [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8... ♪ >> brian: hey, glad you are up. why was president obama so off of his game in the debate. journalist bob woodword had a theory on shared on the radio on kilmeade and friends. >> something happened intelligence report, who knows the things that can happen in a president's life that distract him. he was distracted. it was not an engaged obama. i think as the onion gets peeled on this. we'll find that something happened in his presidential or personal life that distracted him. >> brian: could personal problems be the reason and blame why the president did so poorly . dick morris, you wrote the book screwed, you should know. >> he noticed there was not a teleprompter in front of him. i leave it to al gore to explain his bad performance on cloimate change when he said altitude in denver . two reasons for the bad performance . the first is, he's no

. >> bill: that's a good point. even though jim lehrer didn't do a great job at the debate, it is an important show, and right down the middle is about as unfox as you can get. >> caller: and don't worry about obama, he is going to take him down at the next debate brother. >> caller: good to see you man. you make me realize how much i miss charleston. what we were down there for? oh, the republican primary. [ laughter ] >> you got it. >> caller: we were there with steven colbert and herman cain. >> that's right. >> bill: larry is in rochester, new york. we're talking about pbs, what do you say, larry? >> caller: i think the whole thing is ridiculous. my grandchildren watch pbs and big bird. and i had some new neighbors move in, and when they first moved in they could talk no english, they watch sesame street all the time and their english has now become excellent. you can understand them with no problem. >> bill: you can say that about millions and millions of american kids, not just immigrants, right in they learn their numbers, letters, learn concepts

. that is because your money comes from jim demint. if you are interested texas, how could do not support our senior senator majority leader in the abandoned the majority party if the republican party? you will not commit to him. >> mr. cruz? >> if mr. sadler suggests that as a criterion voters should use, who will stand more closely with john cornyn, that is not a complicated question. john is enthusiastically supporting me with in this campaign. he is campaigning on the road with me. >> the question is whether you would support him. >> we will try one more time. >> would you vote for john cornyn as majority leader of the senate? >> he is not running for majority leader. >> would you vote for him? >> i know you are believing you are cross-examining a witness >> just answer my question. yes or no. >> i know you are leaving -- yes or no. >> let me know when you are done. >> give me a response, what ever it is, and then will move monday to answer my question. why what you answer? >> because you keep interrupting. would you like an answer? >> tell me. >> he will give you a response. >> john cornyn is a

like "let's just make up a number." that is not confidence- inspiring. and it was terrible for jim lehrer who did not have control of the debate at any point. i dunno if he needed more tools to assert himself, but that did not improve my view of either candidate. >> here's a clip of president obama talking about mitt romney's tax plan. >> for me, this is about jobs for the american people. >> do you challenge what the governor said about his own plan? >> for 18 months, he has been running on this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he is saying that his big bold idea is never mind. the fact is, if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high-income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it is math. it is arithmetic. >> continuing to take your reaction on twitter. >> next up is kory from glen cove, maryland. >> our you doing? >> fine, thank you. you're on the air. >> the debates are premature game of chess. as a champion,

was feisty. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird. i actually like you too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> bill: can you explain, let's start with the 47% because neither charles nor i really -- we just don't get it it why didn't he use that? >> it's inexplicable to me. i mean, look, obama mailed in that debate last night. and romney was on his game. there is no question about it. now, whether that was because obama thought he was going to have an easy run at it, i don't know. but the 47% has become so engrained and been so says tested and so negative for romney that you ought to use it it's as simple for that. >> bill: we know why he mailed in his game last night, the presidents, because one of the men that you idolize very much al gore told us it was just the elevation and the president was i guess didn't have enough oxygen and just couldn't get the energy level up. >> let's not waste our time on serious analysis with al gore's view about the air. >>

of pinning him down. maybe he thought jim lehrer was going to do it. i say, no. take the man at his word. mitt romney wants us to suck up all the stuff he's throwing out. he's not clear. he's double talking. that's what he's doing. >> if you don't have a mandate for health care, which is what mitt romney and the republicans want, they don't want a mandate. but if people want to have health insurance, you can't sign up for something and never pay and then wonder why you get rejected because you don't do the payments. it's easier to talk about it in the length of a debate. let me remind you, in 2008, president obama ran when he was trying to get to the left of hillary clinton, and he opposed nafta. and as soon as that was gone, he never talked again about renegotiating nafta. we found out later he sent one of his top aides to -- >> one at a time, one at a time. let ari finish, please. >> both candidates have engaged in tactical maneuvering. this is nothing new. >> i'm not saying it's anything new and i'm not saying both candidates don't shift and move to the center after primaries and stuf

of that. i'm sorry, jim. i will stop the subsidy to pbs and stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> it that remark about stopping funding of big bird -- i like big bird. social media mentions big bird went up 800,000%. >> that's outside the margin of error. >> on facebook afterward. pbs lovers. sesame street lovers were very, very angry. including actor lavar burton. he hosted "reading rainbow." thanks for talking with us. the ceo of pbs said that nearly fell off the couch while watching the debate and heard that particular part of the debate. what was your reaction? did you have the same reaction? >> i was outraged. i couldn't believe the man actually fixed his mouth to say that. an attack on children. it is an attack on children and attack on children who come from -- disenfranchised, you know, background. pbs is the nation's largest classroom. it guarantees equal access to the wonderfulness that pbs provided for almost 50 years in this country. to callously, blat

from missouri. let's go to the phones and get the callers involved. this is jim in waterbury, connecticut. good morning. go ahead. caller: linda mcmahon it said that chris murphy was not there in congress 90% of the time to make votes on issues. is that a fair accusation? is that just sort of how congress works that -- works now? guest: beat -- host: before we let you go, what is it like there in connecticut now? guest: last time she really bombarded you. it is a pretty bad race, a lot of mudslinging. host: ken rudin? guest: this is a state that they have no business being competitive in. the former chief executive of the world wrestling federation, linda mcmahon, spent $50 million in a big republican year and lost still by 12 points. she got some sort of complete makeover this year? or she is warm and folksy? she is taking chris murphy as someone who is out of touch. i still think that he has a slight lead, but the polls show them as dead even. democrats should definitely worry. this is the one where joe lieberman is retiring. host: new york, trevor, republican. caller: good

and instead listen to substance. i appreciate the fact athat jim lehrer asked questions about substance. i appreciated that i was able to ask obama about obamacare. i asked, why is it that the middle class is still buried in this country? why we have millions of people out of work? why is it that half of our children coming out of college cannot find a job? why is it that when he took office, 32 million people are on food stamps? i asked him those questions. you heard his answers. as a result of those answers, the american people recognize that he and i stand for something very different. i will help the american people get good jobs and a bright future. [cheers and applause] even more importance than what was happening in the past was what he plans on doing for the future. he had the chance to describe his vision for the future. what it was was more of the same. he described a series of ideas that we have heard before. he talks about a stimulus and hiring more government workers and having the government making investments. of course, he talks about raising taxes. they plan to raise taxes

barack obama or what does jim lehrer do as the moderator. he will anticipate a broad strokes vision about his tax plan. then the question becomes, how do you pay for it? you're going to cut taxes for everybody. it's going to be deficit neutral. you say you're going to close loopholes, deal with deductions, so let's talk about those deductions. you know, home mortgage deduction, charitable giving deduction, health care deduction. are you willing to tell the middle class -- >> tax deduction. >> are you willing to tell the middle class some of these are off the table? if you are, how do you pay for it? >> he's not going to. he has bucket, 17 grand. is that not good enough for you? >> that's the problem. if he starts getting specific like that, what the right wants to hear is not what 80% of the country wants to hear. that's the fundamental problem he has. >> the bar is pretty low for mr. romney. how does he get through the 90 minutes without any further problems? very quickly. >> i've been a big fan of the fact that mitt romney is the gift that keeps on giving. listen, if mitt romney doesn't

the structure of the debate was? >> this is the format that the candidates agreed to. i thought jim lehrer did a nice job tonight. i think is what americans are starving for at home, just an honest conversation between our president and our nominee. listen, it was an unbelievably bad performance by the president. i don't know if he left his heart in washington, but he did not bring it here, that is for sure. >> mostly i just feel bad for the moderator. we also hear from steve dodd. obama did not look poised tonight. his body language screamed get me out of here. >> what was the president not more aggressive? talk to the american people about where we are going and what we are doing. repeatedly he talked specifically about jobs, about the economy. things that matter to the american people. [indiscernible] >> there is only one candidate out there with the tax plan to reduce the debt. specifics are important for people to hear and that is what they heard in this debate. >> i would not agree with him at all. >> i disagree. [indiscernible] >> i am happy with any debate where people walk away unders

"sesame street" would get so much attention at last night's debate? >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop things, i like big bird and i like you, too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay more. >> twitter went crazy. 17,000 tweets per minute. the hash tag, save big bird was trending. and three big handles popped up, @bigbird, @big birdromney and @fired bigbird. the middle class has been buried the last four years. jesse jackson jr. may now be back to work or won't be back to work until after the election. his wife says he's anxious to get back but he's fighting back from bipolar depression. he's on the ballot november 6. >>> and never to be mistaken for big bird, my must read, the real life discovery of the remains of a dwarf dinosaur, which seems like an oxy moron. it looked like dracula. you can get a look at it if you dare in my must read up on facebook.com/jansingco. now from the maker of splenda sweeteners, discover nectresse. the only 100% natural, no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness of

on the exact same date, october 3rd, in 2000. a debate that also was moderated by jim lehrer. >> the fact is the wealthiest may more taxes. if you're a family of four making $50,000 ins massachusetts, you get a 50% tax cut. >> now, here's mr. george bush same day, 2000. same moderator making the same promise. it didn't work then. why would we believe the same day, same party, same kind of political philosophy now? >> we won't believe it because we've lived through it and we found out that it was a fraud. look, what the average middle class family got out of the bush tax cut was equivalent to enough money to buy an extra diet coke a day. who is going to believe mitt romney when he gets up there and said, look, i'm going to take care of the mid class, no tax increases on the middle class, no tax cuts for the wealthy. he's mr. 47%. he's spent the whole year deriding the majority of american hes and catering to people at the very top. i think jared's absolutely right. these numbers not only don't add up, but if romney is ever forced to specify any of these deductions, what about home interest

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